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The distinguished glitchy64 spake:
This place has really died down and when i tell my friends about 3DSPaint they say I won't try it. [/quote] Yeah that sucks, because I bet if they actually gave this place a chance, they'd like it here.  [/quote]
Yea, but sometimes 3DSPaint gets boring. [/quote] If 3DSPaint DOES get a influx of users, then keep check on how many dicks that have been drawn. [/quote] I honestly think chatrooms are not used that much, I'm not saying people should stop painting and go to chatrooms but give them some love while we're the BfBB community in Late 2015. [/quote] Yeah, the only reason I'm not in the chatrooms as often (other than that I have trouble keeping up sometimes, lol) is because my RL situation makes it kinda awkward for me, and I tend to prefer the groups' shoutboxes, instead. (Being interrupted by RL stuff doesn't affect me as much when doing that, because of how shouts work.) Also, being a pretty hardcore blogger here myself, I also think that it'd be nice to have more people writing blogs here (and possibly more blogs being featured, as well), as that's one of the things that I enjoy the most about Paint, myself. [/quote]
LOL, I was just thinking about writing a blog! [/quote] I say go for it!
I still need to check some blogs out myself, and quit bouncing between all of these different shoutboxes, lol! 
(It's pretty fun doing that, though.) ……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
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The distinguished glitchy64 spake:
This place has really died down and when i tell my friends about 3DSPaint they say I won't try it. [/quote] Yeah that sucks, because I bet if they actually gave this place a chance, they'd like it here. [/quote]
Yea, but sometimes 3DSPaint gets boring. [/quote] If 3DSPaint DOES get a influx of users, then keep check on how many dicks that have been drawn. [/quote] I honestly think chatrooms are not used that much, I'm not saying people should stop painting and go to chatrooms but give them some love while we're the BfBB community in Late 2015. [/quote] Yeah, the only reason I'm not in the chatrooms as often (other than that I have trouble keeping up sometimes, lol) is because my RL situation makes it kinda awkward for me, and I tend to prefer the groups' shoutboxes, instead. (Being interrupted by RL stuff doesn't affect me as much when doing that, because of how shouts work.) Also, being a pretty hardcore blogger here myself, I also think that it'd be nice to have more people writing blogs here (and possibly more blogs being featured, as well), as that's one of the things that I enjoy the most about Paint, myself.
……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
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The distinguished glitchy64 spake:
This place has really died down and when i tell my friends about 3DSPaint they say I won't try it. [/quote] Yeah that sucks, because I bet if they actually gave this place a chance, they'd like it here.
……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
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The distinguished Finrod spake:
It’s a good idea socially. But for “potentially reviving the site” no. For one that’s not something we can just market to, or is it something we can just find out about somebody. This is a DSi painting browser not the abuse helpline. [/quote] IK, but this site certainly is serving that very function to a large extent RN. Dang near everyone IK here has some kinda messed up situation with their parents IRL. 
(Although none of them have it as bad as Thi did, or as bad as I do now, AFAIK.) [/quote] You provided no new solution to what I just debunked! : ) [/quote] True, I have no idea how to reach out to people like that, all I'm saying is there are thousands (if not more) of us out there, and if there was someway to reach those people, it would be a great thing for both them and Paint.
(I have no idea how to actually do that, though.) Also, one idea that I had that I do actually (kinda) know how to implement is simply promoting Paint om other (more popular) websites. For example, I put a link to my profile page here on Paint in my profile on E-shuushuu (which AFAIK has WAY more users than Paint does RN), and while I haven't been nearly active enough over there for it to have any impact, doing stuff like that could (in theory) draw more attention to Paint, and hopefully more members, as well. (I can't really do that myself RN, though, because of my current RL limitations.) ……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
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The distinguished Finrod spake:
It’s a good idea socially. But for “potentially reviving the site” no. For one that’s not something we can just market to, or is it something we can just find out about somebody. This is a DSi painting browser not the abuse helpline. [/quote] IK, but this site certainly is serving that very function to a large extent RN. Dang near everyone IK here has some kinda messed up situation with their parents IRL.
(Although none of them have it as bad as Thi did, or as bad as I do now, AFAIK.) ……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
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The distinguished Gemini Guardian spake:
yeah, back when the dsi was relevant... [/quote] IK, but considering how many people still use the DSi, and (more importantly at this point) the 3DS, it seems like this place has a lot of potential future users, to me. I've noticed that a lot of the people here (myself included) tend to have overprotective parents, too, and messed up RL situations.
I think that this place can (and does) make a tremendous difference in those people's lives, and if there was some way to reach out to more people like that me, I think it would be a VERY good thing for both them, and for Paint.
(Based upon my own personal experiences, and those of many of my friends here, anyway.) ……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
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Well, after seeing what I flop that Tiering System comparison blog was, it probably seems foolish to still compare my System to Smogon's, but I'm going to, anyway.
This is what I believe would be a reasonable comparison of the Tiers in my System to the ones in Smogon's based upon what little IK about their System: UT = Anything Goes LT = Ubers MDT/DT = OU HT = UUBL/UU ST = RUBL/RU NT = NUBL/NU BT = PUBL/PU/ZUBL/ZU Anyway, those comparisons are probably off, but I think that they're probably close to accurate, at least. Like I told one of my friends here recently, though: Comparing my Tiering System to Smogon's is kinda like comparing Applins to Oran Berries, because although both are delicious looking, one is a Pokémon, and the other is a Held Item, so you can't really compare the 2. My System is a static one, consistent across all generations, and is entirely based on Pokémon's Legendary/Mythical Status, BSTs, EBSTs, and power checks, and usage never even enters the equation. Smogon's System, by contrast, is primarily usage based (as evidenced by their Tier names), and is constantly trying to adapt to an ever-changing metagame, rather than remain consistent like mine is. Perhaps it would be more appropriate to view my System as an alternative to the very same 2 Tier System I based it off of, instead. (I suspect that it would be better received that way by Competitive Players, lol!) Anyway, just some thoughts. Oh, and I corrected the Soul Dew thing for Gen 7 & 8, as well as bumped up all of the Gen 8 Fossil Pokémon to DT. (Because of the Fishious Rend/Bolt Beak thing, mostly.) Lastly, I'm planning on (with some help from Mom) trying to create accounts at some other (more Pokémon-centric) websites, with the hopes that I can submit my Tiering System there, as well.
(We'll see how that goes, though.) ……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
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The distinguished magicator spake:
I think that would help, but I personally believe the biggest problem that this website has (as far as population growth is concerned) is that most people don't even know it exists. Pretty much everyone here (myself included) is a gamer, who stumbled upon this place by some twist of fate, and while that does cause the members of the community here to be very close to one another (which I like), and to have a lot in common with one another, I suspect there are plenty of others who would be interested in joining this site, who don't simply because they didn't know of it's existence. (I would've joined this place years ago if I had known about it back in 2014, when I first got my 2DS.) I mean, everyone knows about Facebook, Twitter, etc., but if you ask most people (even those who aren't online, or those who avoid social media, like my dad) "Have you heard of DSiPaint/3DSPaint?", the vast majority would say "No, I haven't.". ……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
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Well, my Tier lists are now complete, so now everyone can actually see what all is in each Tier, rather than having to look up BSTs constantly to do so, lol!
Additionally, I changed the names of a few of the Tiers (PT is now HT, AT is now ST, and WT is now NT), to make them sound more like the names of the Contest Ranks (among other things) in-game, and adjusted the Tier classifications of many Pokémon as I was going along, putting them up or (rarely) down a Tier from where the BST would place them. (These Pokémon are marked with an "*" in the lists.) I'll eventually mark all of the Pokémon whose current Tier classifications I'm uncertain about (or perhaps just make a list of them), especially all of the non-Evolving Pokémon currently in NT that I'm considering bumping down to BT because of their low BSTs. ……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
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The distinguished MaxDeMan1 spake:
When I get the ability to play YouTube Videos, I'll be sure to check it out.
Thanks!
……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
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The distinguished Dedode spake:
Not really. I mean, I get your point, but at present, there are so few things other than BST and Legendary Status that affect a Pokémon's Tier, that it's still pretty simple. To simplify it, think of the Tiers like this: UT and LT are simply my attempt to divide the Battle Frontier Banlist ("UN", as I now call it) into 2 separate Tiers. For example, Black and White Kyurem are UT, while regular Kyurem is LT. Dawn Wings Necrozma, Dusk Mane Necrozma, and Zygardes with Power Construct are UT, while regular Zygarde 50% Formes and Necrozmas are LT. (Regular Zygarde 10% Formes are AT RN, due to their low BST.) As for the idea of applying certain restrictions on Abilities (aside from Power Construct), that's still up in the air RN, but when talking about HA Pokémon, there are some that have obviously OP HAs, and I'm willing to make special Rules regarding them. It doesn't make it that complicated unless you have a ton of HA Pokémon, either, which (as a person who plays the regular games, and hasn't done anything on Showdown) doesn't seem to complicated to me. (Not to mention I'll be finishing those lists of what's in each Tier, eventually.) The main things of importance (to me) are being consistent with GAME FREAK's System (which means that the division between LT and MDT is sacred), and the timelessness aspect. If you battled with a certain Pokémon in Gen 4, it'll be in the same Tier in Gen 8, provided that you don't utilize some new aspect of Gameplay that increases it's EBST dramatically, like Mega Evolution, or Eviolite. ……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
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The distinguished Finrod spake:
Actually, I thought of doing just that to a number of different Pokémon. Dedode mentioned that Greninja would be PT in my current System, and while I'd like to keep all of the (non-Mega Evolved) Fully Evolved Starter Pokémon in PT, I could bump up Protean Greninjas, Contrary Serperiors, and (possibly) Ash Greninja to DT. (That'd be the same Tier as the Pseudos, which seems about right.) Also, I was considering bumping Multiscale Lugias to UT, although that'd be a little awkward because of the whole "Equality" thing. (Unless I raised Regenerator Ho-ohs to UT, as well.) What do you think? ……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
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OK, first of all, I'd like to apologize to all of the Competitive Pokémon Players here, for being overly defensive (and at times confrontational) about my Alternative Pokémon Tiering System.
(I'd also like to thank those who supported it as well, though.) Anyway, rather than defending my (WAY too BST based) Tiering System, I created this Thread to discuss it, and the different ways I could improve it. To be clear, I'm NOT dead set on the idea of a BST based Tiering System, it's just that that was the simplest way of creating a Tiering System that possesses the characteristics that I want in my Tiering System, which are: 1. Consistency with GAME FREAK's "2 Tier System" 2. Equality 3. Timelessness Anyway, I'm pretty much flexible on everything else, and I'm willing to consider WAY more than Stats. In fact, when checking the BSTs of a few different Pokémon (including Gengar, and Ferrothorn), I became dissatisfied with the way my own Tiering System classified these Pokémon, which is the primary reason I'm doin this RN. I made lists of the Pokémon currently in the 4 highest Tiers (although IDK much about Gen 8, which means they might be missing some Gen 8 Pokémon), and put links to these lists in my Tiering System Blog. I'm open to almost any suggestion that doesn't go against the 3 principles U mentioned above, and TBH, although it'd be difficult, I'm also willing to consider multiple different Tiering Systems, for the different Battle Formats. (One for Singles, one for Doubles, one for Triples, one for Rotation Battles, and one for Battle Royals.) Anyway, sorry for the speech, lol!
(I just wanted to make sure that I didn't leave out anything important.) ……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
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The distinguished popuko115 spake:
Black Kyurem uses Fusion Bolt! ……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
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The distinguished Dedode spake:
Well, I would say that bringing back Megas would be sufficient, but no Z-Crystals means no Ultra Necrozma, and even without it.s Z-Move, Ultra Necrozma is one AWESOME Pokémon! (Certainly far better than Dawn Wings or Dusk Mane Necrozma.) And they should obviously bring back Primal Reversion, too. (And IDK if the got rid of Power Construct, or any the Zygarde's Core Moves or not, but if they did, they should bring them back, as well.) ……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
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Well, now that I know they removed them in Gen 8, I think bringing back Mega Evolution and Z-Crystals would DEFINITELY be an improvement.
(And how about giving some more Pokémon Mega Stones, too.) ……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
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Hardcore Dragon-type Trainer, here.
(I also like Water, Ghost, and Ice-types a lot, too, though.) ……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
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The distinguished jaketheguy spake:
Good idea, IMO.
BTW, they did something like that in Black 2/White 2. (They should've kept it, IMO.) ……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
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The distinguished Skeptical spake:
Um, unless you're in an Inverse Battle, that wouldn't be "Super Effective". (Then again, in non-Inverse Battles, Hyper Beam can never be "Super Effective".) Anyway: Zygarde uses Thousand Arrows! or, for an Inverse Battle: Mega Rayquaza uses Dragon Ascent! ……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
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Giratina used Shadow Force!
……想像力が 足りないよ —伝承者ヒガナ
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