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Unusual Pokémon Battle Techniques (Mostly Theoretical)

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Avatar SkulHedFace
10 May 2019 13:50
Tfw someone makes a blog so good that even Agus rises from the dead and comments on it
Avatar Dedode3
10 May 2019 00:06
My favorite is Speed boost + sword dance + white herb + batton pass + ingrain + double team + batton pass + calm mind + stored power.

takes the whole team to perform but its funny
Avatar Luisjo96
10 May 2019 17:52
In reply to Dedode3
Unholy.
Avatar Finrod
10 May 2019 12:24
In reply to Dedode3
Bring a marshadow with that, and if your opponent pulls a psych up or does the same thing you can steal their buffs.
Avatar Draconid_Jo
10 May 2019 01:16
In reply to Dedode3
I've got say, that is really cool.
On a side note, I just thought I'd mention something I regularly do with my Speed Boost Sharpedos (I like Sharpedo a lot, BTW). I have them use Protect on the first turn BEFORE Mega Evolving them. It's usually pretty safe to do this, and it makes Mega Sharpedo WAY faster, which can make a big difference.
Avatar Finrod
10 May 2019 12:22
In reply to Draconid_Jo
Try blaziken lol
Avatar Sun+Moon
10 May 2019 14:50
In reply to Finrod
My god i LOVE blaziken
Avatar Finrod
10 May 2019 15:25
In reply to Sun+Moon
For a good reason!!
Avatar Draconid_Jo
10 May 2019 17:17
In reply to Finrod
Yeah, it WOULD work with Blaziken, or any other Pokémon with Speed Boost, for that matter. But the Sharpedo thing is different, because once it Mega Evolves, it's Ability CHANGES (to Strong Jaw). This technique allows you to take advantage of BOTH Abilities. Whereas with Blaziken, its Mega HAS Speed Boost, and therefore, there is no reason to withhold Mega Evolution.
Avatar Finrod
10 May 2019 17:41
In reply to Draconid_Jo
I mean yeah, but sharpedo isn’t really good until it mega evolves sadly, you can’t really stall sharpedo unless you use a switch in to counter a grass move, which will only be like 1.5x boosts. You wouldn’t be able to last long becuase sharpedo doesn’t have good defense, and goes down in like one thunder.
Avatar Draconid_Jo
10 May 2019 17:45
In reply to Finrod
The question is: Can a Mega Sharpedo with (at level 50) 211 Attack, an Abilty that increases Crunch's damage by 50%, and a 50% increase to its Speed from my Speed Boost trick, take out whatever it is that would be using that Thunder in ONE HIT?
Avatar Finrod
13 May 2019 13:25
In reply to Draconid_Jo
Sharpedo isn’t even that high in the pokemon tier lol, almost all electric types have a massive amount of speed, I doubt it’s tanky, because of its high speed balances it out. a joleton could make quick work of it with a choice scarf lol. And thats one of the basic examples.
Avatar Finrod
13 May 2019 13:26
In reply to Finrod
Jolteon* and i mean thats if i allowed you to let off a speed boost lol. roar is a good move to have.
Avatar Draconid_Jo
18 May 2019 13:59
In reply to Finrod
Roar doesn't work on a Pokémon using Protect. And yeah, IF you give one of the fastest Pokémon in the Game a Choice Scarf, it'll be faster. But seriously? There are many better ways to counter that strategy. My whole point is, if you want to use Sharpedo (I happen to like Sharks a lot), this is a good technique to use. And plenty of "lower tier" Pokémon are great in Hardcore Battles. It just depends on how you use them, and in what situation.
Avatar Draconid_Jo
10 May 2019 17:48
In reply to Draconid_Jo
Oh, I forgot to mention! It's effective Speed would be 258.
Avatar Finrod
09 May 2019 13:39
My favorite is barrier/iron defense + baton pass into a gluttony pkmn+ Aguav berry + belly drum + recycle.
You can only use snorlax + your baton pass Pokémon though.
Avatar Draconid_Jo
09 May 2019 15:17
In reply to Finrod
Cool ideas! Thanks! The very first one up there… Does it sound plausible in a Real Battle? I mean, if I could ever refrain from using an all Dragon Team, I would like to try it myself, but every time I get ready to Battle, I just end up using a bunch of Dragons, lol!
Avatar Finrod
10 May 2019 12:21
In reply to Draconid_Jo
I mean it’s pretty random really, if you transform into a Pokémon that has a mega maybe it might work. But it’s also kind of pointless. Like why bother copying your opponents mega if you can just get that mega already? You’re going to need their mega item to work in the first place so??? Idk Like I said an all dragon team isn’t really good lol. An all dragon team will help you carry through Pokémon’s linear story and main plot, but on competitive you’re dead, and you can’t really switch out on fairy types or other dragon types. Or you’ll always end up dying every switch.
Avatar Finrod
10 May 2019 13:22
In reply to Finrod
Most of these are actually kind of viable, they are actual techniques lol, the mega evolution one I don’t know, but most of these people actually use, besides endure shedinga, they use ability switch with a Pokémon with sturdy and shedinga basically becomes god.
Avatar Draconid_Jo
10 May 2019 17:26
In reply to Finrod
I've tested the Mega one. IT DOES WORK. What I'm not sure about is if it would be worth it. And the idea, BTW, is to Transform into a Teammate (in a Double or Triple Battle) AFTER the Teammate has Mega Evolved. In other words, you could have 2 Mega Evolved Pokémon (of the same type, too), when you can only Mega Evolve once per Battle.
And an all Dragon Team IS viable against Human opponents. I've defeated many Trainers with Legendary/Mythical Fairy-types (such as Xerneas, Diancie, Tapu Fini, just to name a few), WITH AN ALL DRAGON-TYPE TEAM. Believe it or not, if you take out your opponent in one hit, it doesn't matter if they have a Super Effective move, or not. For more information on this, read my Dragon Master blog.
Avatar Finrod
10 May 2019 18:51
In reply to Draconid_Jo
The double mega evolution sounds really cool. Damn I gotta try that now. Sadly I don’t even have the 3DS versions. But I’ll see if it works on Pokémon showdown lmao. I would battle you with an fairy/ice team and show you, if I could.
Avatar Finrod
10 May 2019 18:52
In reply to Finrod
I know how glass cannons work lol, no need for that. But who are you facing lol?
Avatar Draconid_Jo
10 May 2019 19:28
In reply to Finrod
Oh, and I'm not necessarily referring to "Glass Cannons". What I'm referring to is the use of damage multipliers. I believe I explained how a Dragonite could reduce the damage of an Ice-type move from 4× damage to ½ damage, right? Well there are offensive techniques, too. Read my Dragon Master blog. It mentions the power of moves such as Dragon Dance, and Swords Dance. Also, the Weakness Policy, which, once activated, will double your Attack and Sp. Attack. That effectively makes your Normal Effectiveness moves Super Effective. It's just a matter of math, lol!
Avatar Draconid_Jo
10 May 2019 19:20
In reply to Finrod
Just Random Matchup at Battle Spot. And of course an all Ice/Fairy Team can beat an all Dragon Team (provided they're good enough), that's not my point. My point is 1 or 2 Fairy-types on a Mixed Team isn't going to defeat a well coordinated Dragon-type Team. Most people (actual Human Players, anyway) don't focus on one type. I'm saying if you do, you can not only get away with it, but also catch an opponent who's used to a well-rounded Team off guard. One Xerneas isn't going to defeat your entire Team, not if you know what you're doing.
Avatar Finrod
13 May 2019 14:24
In reply to Draconid_Jo
Ahh, well I find the phrase “If they’re well coordinated enough” to be applicable to everything lol, i just find it difficult to even comprehend that a mixed player (which would typically be a team created to counter all that’s oppose the strategy or at least attempt to) would loose to a meme-able team, dragon dance is indeed a good move, but that doesn’t necessarily make dragons amazing, we know Gemonacy+power herb and nasty plot, etc already exist. Dragons aren’t special for knowing to learn dragon dance. It isn’t all that viable as your overexaggerating is what I’m saying, it’s quite funny and cool though//
Avatar Draconid_Jo
18 May 2019 14:07
In reply to Finrod
The only way Geomancy is even a useful move in a serious Battle, is if it's paired with a Power Herb. Pretty much every Xerneas I've defeated did just that. And the premise of an all Dragon Team is pretty straightforward. Basically, it's using overwhelming Offensive Power, to take down one's opponents, coupled with Defensive Items/Abilities, to ensure you get off the necessary moves to do so. My Dragon Master blog covers most of this, but one thing to keep in mind with Xerneas: Mega Rayquaza is faster. Imagine a hypothetical 1 on 1 between a Mega Rayquaza and a Xerneas. If you do that, you (hopefully) will get my point.
Avatar Finrod
13 May 2019 15:45
In reply to Finrod
Like i do understand most fairy types lack of offensive movesets, and they’re mostly support TBH, i’ve ONLY used Florges, Mega Diancie, and Gallade/Gardevoir. So i fully understand honestly.
Avatar Draconid_Jo
18 May 2019 14:12
In reply to Finrod
Gallade isn't a Fairy-type. That aside, the main point is Fairy-types aren't as strong (in general) as Dragon-types. There are no Pseudo-legendary Fairy-types (yet), and only a few Legendary ones. And those few Legendary ones are not very sturdy (aside from Tapu Fini, by far the hardest for me to deal with).
Avatar Finrod
13 May 2019 15:53
In reply to Finrod
Oh and sadly, I don’t really own a 3DS, rest in piece battle spot, but dude if you have a PC i would love to face you in showdown. Which is the same as 3DS + more.
Avatar Draconid_Jo
18 May 2019 14:14
In reply to Finrod
Yeah, that sucks.
I don't own a PC, either, so I guess we can't Battle.
Avatar Finrod
09 May 2019 13:33
God that sturdy Shedinja ability switch thing is such a pain. Also Heliolisk with solar power + sunny day + choice scarf is underrated. And of course the arena trap + encore lol.
Avatar Draconid_Jo
10 May 2019 17:35
In reply to Finrod
The major flaw in the "Sturdy Shedinja" strategy, is that Shedinja is only invincible because of Sturdy. Sturdy cannot protect Shedinja from a Haxorus with Mold Breaker, nor a Garchomp's Rough Skin. It also cannot protect it from Sandstorms, or Hail, or Poison, or Burns, or Leech Seed, or a Rocky Helmet, or Spiky Shield, or lots of other things.
Avatar Finrod
13 May 2019 13:29
In reply to Draconid_Jo
True, but you can’t just name all of ones downfalls, and expect the other team to be built around just deafeating a shedinga lol, there are more other things to worry about people usually consider, like getting rid of stealth rocks or trick room teams, those are scary!!
Avatar Draconid_Jo
18 May 2019 14:19
In reply to Finrod
I could write an entire blog, just about the nearly infinite number of ways to take out a Shedinja, with or without Sturdy. Try that technique out in the PWT (in B2/W2), and you'll see what I mean. And it's WAY WORSE in Gen 7. All the Main Legendaries Main Move would one-shot such a Shedinja. There's no comparison between that, and my Dragon Strategy. The true flaw of the Shedinja thing, is that you're trying to make 1 Pokémon invincible, when that is impossible to do.
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