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A Solution For Groups

RP Avatar By @Icarus
POSTED: 08 Oct 2013 16:26
CATEGORY: This Community
FEATURED: Yes (@MetalHeart)
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EpicArtifex and inSein have some ideas to make Groups nuch easier to moderate, but we need HullBreach's attention. If enough people vote or comment on this blog, that may just happen. At the very least, I would like for him to acknoledge this concept, even if he does nothing else.

The basic idea is this: Savii Point payments for the creation and maintenance of Groups. This will ensure that Permad members cannot simply re-make an inappropriate Group right away, giving users more incentive to behave in Group Shoutboxes.

In addition, there should be a list of Groups for Group Moderators, and/or possibly notifications for them when a new Group is created. This would enable Group Mods to keep track of Groups, and it would be obvious when a Group with an unacceptable name is created.

To see my related Blog, click below.
The Problem With Groups
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Avatar KylennR
15 Oct 2013 17:04
Anything that may be useful is that when someone becomes banned they are unable to shout in groups, message, shout in BBs, make blogs, and comment on profiles. I think that would make people bahave a bit better and make they be a bit more cautious in the chats. I honestly think that we have a majority of good kids and teens on this site, but there are always those few idiots.
Avatar Icarus
15 Oct 2013 17:05
In reply to KylennR
Another good Idea. Thanks, Kyle!
Avatar KylennR
15 Oct 2013 15:06
I feel like that getting all those notifications of new groups would be a hassle considering that groups are far more active than chats as it is so I'm sure there are more groups being made then they could handle unless they are online 24/7. I know it's hard to believe but admins and overlords have a life as well. I think if they had a new groups feed (and I think this would be helpful for the few BBmins as well), much like the new member feed, if that is possible, then it would be much more efficient. Plus, I don't know if the admins know this, but there are certain things that you can type into the search bar that takes you straight to most of the bad words. Overall, I hate the groups because they killed the chats, but that's just my opinion. Considering most people like them and seem to be a predominant part of the site, then these updates would be most superb in helping the group mods to monitor the groups.
Avatar inSein
20 Oct 2013 01:24
In reply to KylennR
TBH, not as many are made as you would think. I search through new ones sometimes and usually the number on how many are made is usually pretty low.

If you're banned in a chatroom, you already are banned from group shouting and BB, btw.
Avatar Icarus
15 Oct 2013 16:28
In reply to KylennR
Thanks for the input, Kyle. And I am aware that you guys have lives.
Avatar Thi500
11 Oct 2013 01:57
Myehh, the chats are dead anyway.
Avatar Icarus
11 Oct 2013 16:37
In reply to Thi500
Most of the time, yeah...
Avatar LaZerWoLF
10 Oct 2013 03:22
Also. We should make the groups be like the featuring of blogs and the polls. An groupmin should ACCEPT the creation of a group, if it is appropriate and reasonable enough.

I strongly believe that there should only be groups that serve a specific purpose. For example, my group/empire, "Us", focuses on bringing people together as ONE. But of course ther is a catch. It also serves to promote my blogs! It's really a great concept. However, this is not on me. If you want to roll with this idea, then so be it. If not, then that's okay too. Just trying to help. I want to add as many ideas as I can. However, I can't believe that Icarus wants to roll with my Savii payment idea. I mean, we even decided in the comments of the previous blog that it wasn't a good idea.

What I'm saying is, I just realized I was broke, and could not afford the production of "Us" if this were to come to fruition. Lol.
Avatar FancyPants
10 Oct 2013 01:52
I'm really not that big on this idea. I personally do not see any reason as to why we should pay savii points for groups just because others are complaining about them.

In my opinion, the groups should be left alone, and the chats should be worked on more. There's this illusion that SDK's population has decreased, but in reality, this only applies to the chats. So, instead of pulling the groups DOWN, leave them alone altogether, and push the chats UP. Make a 'newbies' chat that newer members are redirected to or whatever. Some brilliant idea applied to the CHATS.

When you restrict one feature of the site just for another feature, that makes it worse. But just bring up the other feature.
Avatar LaZerWoLF
10 Oct 2013 03:38
In reply to FancyPants
We could burn the Language Chats and the RP chats to the ground! Haru likes this. XD

It causes less problems. Besides, we could use groups for RP-ing anyways. Like I say above: "Serve a purpose."

I think we need more group-mins. If there are more people utilizing groups, why not compensate for that and hand the group-min power to a couple chat-mods. Sounds like a swell idea to me.

I would request working on the lag, but we've been there before. So forget that. Plus, it's not even as bad as it used to be.

Why not add a few more colors to the text coloration?

Or Fancy, your idea. Preset avatars and colors and possibly even aliases.

If you want an entirely new feature, maybe we should have the ability to report a member for bad behavior. The alert would then be sent to a chat-mod or overlord, just so they know what happened while they were away. The admin could then decide what to do. They could 'monitor' this member, or just 'insta-ban'. It's kinda like filing a report to the police. The 'internet police' if you will. This could be added to the pretty nifty /block feature already in place.

If there is a certain member ruining everyone's fun, and that's why the chats stay empty more often, why not put efforts forward to help this? The above feature could work just fine for that.

Maybe, we should also make the Bots smarter. You know, so they won't ban our beloved admins and overlords during a lag when they were just trying to post something that could be important. (Haruspex, TBreezy2. With all respect you two.) It doesn't really seem fair if they are the only admin in the chat, and this happens... Then they can no longer monitor the chat. Leaving us stripped of all defenses. Yes, the /block feature isn't all that helpful. A blocked user could just log out and log back on and be free of it.

Just a couple of ideas. Sorry for rambling on and on and on.
Avatar LaZerWoLF
10 Oct 2013 03:41
In reply to LaZerWoLF
Also, the report feature should be disabled when an admin or overlord enters the chat. That way, we don't spam mailboxes or anything. Our admins really are the people behind the scenes making our life easier. Lets not complicate theirs.
Avatar FancyPants
10 Oct 2013 13:56
In reply to LaZerWoLF
I just mean, restricting one feature for another feature is stupid. So do the opposite.
Avatar LaZerWoLF
10 Oct 2013 20:02
In reply to FancyPants
I'm confused. O.o
Avatar FancyPants
10 Oct 2013 22:15
In reply to LaZerWoLF
Instead of restricting groups, make the chats better.
Avatar LaZerWoLF
10 Oct 2013 22:15
In reply to FancyPants
We aren't restricting anything. We should be able to co-own groups.
Avatar FancyPants
10 Oct 2013 22:24
In reply to LaZerWoLF
Restricting meaning making us pay Savii points for groups or making mods 'accept' the groups.
Avatar LaZerWoLF
10 Oct 2013 22:29
In reply to FancyPants
Also, groupmins should accept groups. We don't need pointless four person groups everywhere.
Avatar LaZerWoLF
10 Oct 2013 22:29
In reply to FancyPants
Well. Icarus liked that idea. So, it's in his hands, not mine.
Avatar Hylianzombie234
09 Oct 2013 03:00
I like that second idea, but the payment really depends on the math and how much savii points you need to pay. If everyone pays the same rate, I don't think it would work as well. If bigger groups have to pay more savii points to maintain, I think it'll work better.
Avatar LaZerWoLF
10 Oct 2013 03:42
In reply to Hylianzombie234
The lesser the popularity and activity of the group, the more pay. That's a so-so suggestion.
Avatar LaZerWoLF
10 Oct 2013 03:43
In reply to LaZerWoLF
We don't need countless dead groups, or groups with one person in them. Those with active groups work hard to maintain them, why give them the brunt of the payment?
Avatar HullBreach
09 Oct 2013 01:41
It sounds like the consensus is to work on Groups next.

How are the 3DS users liking SketchPad?
Avatar Icarus
09 Oct 2013 13:01
In reply to HullBreach
Thank you for acknowledging us, HullBreach. If it's not too much of an issue, implementing at least one of these ideas would be well-recieved, depending on which ones.
Avatar PLAINOLDLUIS
09 Oct 2013 00:23
For the record, I rarely visit groups. If this blasted Psp had better support for this site, i'd be in a chat room. I only chat in groups when the rooms are empty, but thanks to this psp, I can't do either. I can't even see who's online or any notifications. I'm only against the whole "Pay for group" idea because it's pointless. Anyone can just use a point auction when they run out of points. This'll cause points to be stolen from the user who needs them.

Mini-text wall over.
Avatar LaZerWoLF
10 Oct 2013 03:50
In reply to PLAINOLDLUIS
Stolen? More like a fair deal. You auction Savii's for points. The person buying knows what they are getting themselves into.

If people want their groups so badly, they would use the Savii's more. Therefore, yet another part of SDK is being used more often. Not like it would ever get to that point, but you know.
Avatar PLAINOLDLUIS
10 Oct 2013 21:19
In reply to LaZerWoLF
You're not seeing my point.
Avatar LaZerWoLF
10 Oct 2013 21:22
In reply to PLAINOLDLUIS
Never saw a point.
Avatar furby123
08 Oct 2013 21:51
Dislike the payment idea, but the rest is good. c:
Avatar PLAINOLDLUIS
08 Oct 2013 21:39
The notification thing sounds good. I support it.

The payment idea, I say nay. I'm completely against it.
Avatar 3PIC GAM3R
08 Oct 2013 21:31
I agree with this. Not a bad idea.
Avatar atreyufan1500
08 Oct 2013 19:02
This is a great idea.
Avatar Icarus
08 Oct 2013 19:12
In reply to atreyufan1500
Thanks Atrey!
Avatar MetalHeart
08 Oct 2013 19:01
I'm going to publish my upcoming blog, I need all of the active SDKers to read it ASAP.
Avatar LaZerWoLF
10 Oct 2013 04:06
In reply to MetalHeart
Not really.
Avatar Icarus
08 Oct 2013 19:12
In reply to MetalHeart
What's it about?
Avatar MetalHeart
08 Oct 2013 19:16
In reply to Icarus
Just some thoughts about the site.
Avatar Icarus
08 Oct 2013 19:16
In reply to MetalHeart
Those are always good to tell people.
Avatar MetalHeart
08 Oct 2013 19:41
In reply to Icarus
Go check.
Avatar MetalHeart
08 Oct 2013 18:26
Im for it, let's get the community involved.
Avatar Icarus
08 Oct 2013 18:28
In reply to MetalHeart
Thanks for the support; and that's the plan. I just don't want paint to die.
Avatar LaZerWoLF
10 Oct 2013 04:09
In reply to Icarus
Paint never will die. At the most it would explode, cause a supernova, but remain as a dwarf planet. //Troll Face

I'm with ya. I would be composing blogs too... But, you know me. Hell Paintywood Part Two is overdue by over three months. ;D

I need help. ;-; XD
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